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By sonyan1191 on Jul 31, 2009 | Reply

you cant just say …
you cant just say it doesnt work if YOU never tried it just because other people say so im sure your familiar with the old saying “dont knock it till you try it” i guess not otherwise your wouldnt be all over this forum hmm
wisdom is gained through knowledge and knowledge is gained through experience try it out then talk smack…but i seriously doubt if it will work for you you know considering the fact that you have so much negitivity in your body and your brain hmm but good luck tho DD

By sonyan1191 on Jul 31, 2009 | Reply

[oh boy] first of …
[oh boy] first of all how can you say something doesnt work if you NEVER tried it yourself??? so basically your argument ended there just by saying that you really CANNOT base things on other peoples opinions ESPSCIALLY the Gov’t build your own and go from there if it works it WORKS! second last i check medicine is the same way it works and it doesnt third everything doesnt work for everybody all the time and to base it on records like that is stupid if you dont know about it LEARN!!!

By mmstick on Jul 31, 2009 | Reply

I had been going to …
I had been going to a reiki practictioner since I was a child. I eventually became her student and received my attunements in a matter of days. I used to go to a hospital every month, take 4-5 pills a day, and constantly sick. Now I no longer need my medicine because I am no longer sick.

By mmstick on Jul 31, 2009 | Reply

It is not an …
It is not an alternative treatment. Do some research.

By pandaKrusher on Jul 31, 2009 | Reply

I am seriously …
I am seriously regretting spending years getting a degree in something productive when I could have been charging money to do this .

By kinabear on Jul 31, 2009 | Reply

In their little …
In their little conceited world, it is productive to them. They have no other ways to validate their existance.

By randomuser2036 on Jul 31, 2009 | Reply

I agree on the do …
I agree on the do something productive vibe, it equally applies to Reiki.

By ukemomma on Jul 31, 2009 | Reply

I’m a Reiki …
I’m a Reiki practioner so yes, I saw something different. There are obviously a lot of people making comments on here that either don’t believe in Reiki, have no understanding of it, have no desire to do anything other than critize something they do not connect with on any level. Why? Why waste your time like that? Why invite such negativity into yourself putting something down that has nothing to do with you. Go find something productive to do.

By randomuser2036 on Jul 31, 2009 | Reply

I just watched the …
I just watched the video above, I saw the lady waving her hands around that poor girls head, it says she is an expert at hand waving, did you see something different? I will ask the vet next time I take the pooch about his chakra, didnt know he had one or that they even existed.

By ukemomma on Jul 31, 2009 | Reply

Ummmm you are …
Ummmm you are clearly unfamiliar with Reiki. That’s not how its done and if anyone is waving their hands around in front of your face and telling you they are doing Reiki, well they are not.

Dogs only have one chakra. The heart chakra so, you wouldn’t be doing anything near their face.

By dlappin01 on Jul 31, 2009 | Reply

The American …
The American Hospital ociation is the organization that said it is being used in over 800 hospital in the U.S. Do you think they just made that up? Get real! And just because everyone is using prescription drugs doesn’t mean its working either.

By randomuser2036 on Jul 31, 2009 | Reply

I am pretty sure …
I am pretty sure any dog will react to you waving your hands in its face.

By randomuser2036 on Jul 31, 2009 | Reply

Experienced what? A …
Experienced what? A fruitcake waving her hands around my face? So this lady was beaming energy out of her hands like the Emporer Palatine?

By christe68 on Jul 31, 2009 | Reply

also people are …
also people are using logical fallacies, just because everybody is doing it,doesn’t mean it’s working , a good example would be purity rings( Argument from Popularity,look that up )

By christe68 on Jul 31, 2009 | Reply

wrong, it’s not in …
wrong, it’s not in hospitals, that’s just absurd, it’s an alternative treatment,therefor,it failed it’s test to be considered medical treatment.

By christe68 on Jul 31, 2009 | Reply

that is a loaded …
that is a loaded question,fallacious

By dlappin01 on Jul 31, 2009 | Reply

It is no accident …
It is no accident that Reiki is in all of these hospitals. Apparently a lot of people are seeing the value in it. Gee, could they be onto something? Reiki is not intended to replace conventional medicine, only work along side of it.

By advancingmist on Jul 31, 2009 | Reply

no the doctors …
no the doctors aren’t wrong, the information that you have quoted is MISLEADING, it does not actually say that doctors prescribe Reiki as an effective treatment for disease. (I suggest you look up the word ‘palliative’ that i mentioned in my original post.)

And why would they prescribe Reiki, doctors base their decisions on clinical trials, which have failed to show any evidence that Reiki works, which is exactly my point

If you refuse to seriously engage with my points that is your choice

By dlappin01 on Jul 31, 2009 | Reply

Wow, I guess all …
Wow, I guess all those hospitals and doctors must be wrong!

By ukemomma on Jul 31, 2009 | Reply

Thanks for …
Thanks for supporting my point.

By advancingmist on Jul 31, 2009 | Reply

“a systematic …
“a systematic review of randomized clinical trials conducted in 2008 did not support the efficacy of reiki or its recommendation for use in the treatment of any condition.[7][8]”

this is quoted from wikipedia entry on Reiki

By advancingmist on Jul 31, 2009 | Reply

I have never …
I have never directly experienced or had demonstrated to me the fact that the earth is spherical or that the earth orbits the sun, but am i talking out of my butt to call both of these statements fact?

By advancingmist on Jul 31, 2009 | Reply

Also, I think the …
Also, I think the text you have quoted is unclear, I doubt that Reiki is “offered as part of standard patient care” as a first-line treatment, ie a cancer patient will first be offered chemo and then Reiki as part of palliative care

Reiki is quite a well known alternative therapy so it may well be that private hospitals offer Reiki in the same way they offer hydrotherapy or gourmet soap in the showers, if it worked, if it benefitted patients it would be reimbursed under Medicaid, whch it isnt

By dlappin01 on Jul 31, 2009 | Reply

According to the …
According to the American Hospital ociation, in 2007 Reiki was offered as a standard part of patient care in 15% or over 800 hospitals across the US. Doctors have recommended Reiki to their patients for amelioration of various health-related conditions. Surgeons make use of Reiki practitioners prior to, during, and following surgery.

By advancingmist on Jul 31, 2009 | Reply

science is an …
science is an evidence-based system of knowledge, i trust because the things that it has discovered – chemotherapy and microwave cookers and spaceships – work

Scientists – using the same theoretical framework that debunked bogus theories like the world is flat and provided all the benefits of modern life – have found no benefits for Reiki that cannot be accounted for by the placebo effect

Meanwhile, Reiki practicioners are giving false hope to terminally ill people and charging them for it